diff --git a/common/src/main/scala/net/psforever/packet/game/objectcreate/DetailedCharacterData.scala b/common/src/main/scala/net/psforever/packet/game/objectcreate/DetailedCharacterData.scala
index 89678276..ffae12a5 100644
--- a/common/src/main/scala/net/psforever/packet/game/objectcreate/DetailedCharacterData.scala
+++ b/common/src/main/scala/net/psforever/packet/game/objectcreate/DetailedCharacterData.scala
@@ -286,7 +286,8 @@ object DetailedCharacterData extends Marshallable[DetailedCharacterData] {
           ("stamina" | uint16L) ::
           ignore(147) ::
           ("certs" | listOfN(uint8L, uint8L)) ::
-          ignore(5) ::
+          optional(bool, uint32L) :: //ask about sample CCRIDER
+          ignore(4) ::
           (("implants" | PacketHelpers.listOfNSized(numberOfImplantSlots(bep), implant_entry_codec)) >>:~ { implants =>
             ignore(12) ::
               (("firstTimeEvent_length" | uint32L) >>:~ { len =>
@@ -306,7 +307,7 @@ object DetailedCharacterData extends Marshallable[DetailedCharacterData] {
     }
     ).exmap[DetailedCharacterData] (
     {
-      case app :: bep :: cep :: _ :: hpmax :: hp :: _ :: armor :: _ :: u1 :: _ :: u2 :: u3 :: stamax :: stam :: _ :: certs :: _  :: implants :: _ :: _ :: fte0 :: fte1 :: _ :: tut0 :: tut1 :: _ :: inv :: drawn :: false :: HNil =>
+      case app :: bep :: cep :: _ :: hpmax :: hp :: _ :: armor :: _ :: u1 :: _ :: u2 :: u3 :: stamax :: stam :: _ :: certs :: _ :: _  :: implants :: _ :: _ :: fte0 :: fte1 :: _ :: tut0 :: tut1 :: _ :: inv :: drawn :: false :: HNil =>
         //prepend the displaced first elements to their lists
         val fteList : List[String] = if(fte0.isDefined) { fte0.get +: fte1 } else fte1
         val tutList : List[String] = if(tut0.isDefined) { tut0.get +: tut1 } else tut1
@@ -334,7 +335,7 @@ object DetailedCharacterData extends Marshallable[DetailedCharacterData] {
           firstTutorial = Some(tutList.head)
           tutListCopy = tutList.tail
         }
-        Attempt.successful(app :: bep :: cep :: () :: hpmax :: hp :: () :: armor :: () :: u1 :: () :: u2 :: u3 :: stamax :: stam :: () :: certs :: () :: implantList :: () :: fteList.size.toLong :: firstEvent :: fteListCopy :: tutList.size.toLong :: firstTutorial :: tutListCopy :: () :: inv :: drawn :: false :: HNil)
+        Attempt.successful(app :: bep :: cep :: () :: hpmax :: hp :: () :: armor :: () :: u1 :: () :: u2 :: u3 :: stamax :: stam :: () :: certs :: None :: () :: implantList :: () :: fteList.size.toLong :: firstEvent :: fteListCopy :: tutList.size.toLong :: firstTutorial :: tutListCopy :: () :: inv :: drawn :: false :: HNil)
     }
   )
 }
diff --git a/pslogin/src/main/scala/WorldSessionActor.scala b/pslogin/src/main/scala/WorldSessionActor.scala
index 0063b8b1..8013b820 100644
--- a/pslogin/src/main/scala/WorldSessionActor.scala
+++ b/pslogin/src/main/scala/WorldSessionActor.scala
@@ -495,7 +495,7 @@ class WorldSessionActor extends Actor with MDCContextAware {
       failWithError(s"Invalid packet class received: $default")
   }
 
-  val objectHex = hex"18 34 FF 00 00 BC 84 B0 00 90 76 BA 3F 94 60 E0 00 0B 04 40 00 08 30 46 00 4A 00 48 00 82 00 47 34 9E 80 80 00 00 00 00 00 3F FF C0 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 37 E3 03 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF AD E8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 E0 01 E0 00 64 00 00 01 00 7E C8 00 C8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 C0 00 42 C6 86 C7 CA 41 F0 00 00 08 00 00 04 90 7870655F73616E6374756172795F68656C70 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 02 11 08 58 14 24 40 00 00 10 00 06 02 0E 20 C0 28 0C 80 00 00 20 06 41 0D 02 85 C8 00 00 02 00 E0"
+  val objectHex = hex"18 4a c7 00 00 bc 84 B0 0c 0b 95 59 9a 84 40 b0 00 01 32 00 00 08 70 43 00 43 00 52 00 49 00 44 00 45 00 52 00 82 28 c9 3d 04 40 03 c0 01 40 02 80 00 40 35 18 40 00 25 40 42 00 6c 00 61 00 63 00 6b 00 20 00 41 00 72 00 6d 00 6f 00 72 00 65 00 64 00 20 00 52 00 65 00 61 00 70 00 65 00 72 00 73 00 0f 00 00 03 02 0c 00 00 03 88 00 00 00 d4 00 00 01 9c 04 00 00 09 19 90 02 04 3c 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 90 01 90 00 64 00 00 01 00 7e c8 00 c8 00 00 01 b9 53 4c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 40 00 40 81 c6 86 c8 48 88 c9 09 49 8a 67 86 e0 00 01 25 e0 32 d8 09 6c 00 00 3c 04 00 02 30 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 //  val objectHex = PacketCoding.CreateGamePacket(0,
 //    ObjectCreateDetailedMessage(
 //      121,